Tuesday, September 9, 2014

We Were Just Discussing This Concept...

We just discussed how a society's experiences and culture help shape their economic system and vitality (or lack of). Check this out.

57 comments:

  1. R.L. Period 8

    In my opinion, this article is very biased for a multitude of reasons. Accrediting the Dutch as the source of New York’s greatness, Russell Shorto claims that the solution to the racial and religious tensions that exist in the world today is to recall what the society the Dutch has created in Manhattan. Of course, their concepts of tolerance and free trade are crucial to a functional society; however, the author is definitely leaving out so many years of American history and solely focusing on the positive influences of the Dutch. This article certainly provides only one side of story.

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  2. I find that people who just do what they want and not go the basic rout job wise have abetter experience in the workplace. Michael Dell for example and John Mayer are examples of people who worked very hard and invested time and money into a business. Not every one has the skill to do that. Most people follow the boring routine of finding a safe job. But it is those who curve away from the path that are the entrepreneur that not only makes money but has fun doing it as well. I feel people are scared to take a risk especially if its with their money. That's why like the song Time by Pink Floyd talks about people wasting their time. people think their doing a good thing by waiting and withholding money but in reality their life is passing them by and they have given up many opportunities. So society has structured us to be safe and when we feel safe we get to comfortable. I know everyone likes that feeling but its dangerous to feel that way when it comes to business because then you never take that chance to make something better of what you already had. Society has become to hesitant to take a positive risk because they are always thinking about the negative aspect of things.

    period 6 SRB

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  3. Just reading this article alone makes me realize that in order for a place to truly prosper and grow, there must be no man left behind or any discrimination of any sort. Instead, all must work toward the common good of that place in order to flourish as a whole. This technique used by the Dutch is what shaped New York City into the way that it is today; strong, diverse and an entrepreneurial, free-trading post. Seeing how well New York City prospered under the rule of the Dutch, the English continued to guide the city in the same way when they took over. This lead to a more pluralistic, business-savvy and upwardly mobile society which over the centuries skyrocketed into modern-day New York full of young entrepreneurs and such a diverse population of people.
    -M Misir. Period 8

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  4. this article talks about the history of New York and i found it fascinating that the Dutch started an economic system in new York in the 17th century.and i realize that this shaped the economy of new york today which great because i feel like we have a pretty good economy despite the fact that we are 17 trillions dollars in debt and i doubt it will get better soon and in the end my children, grandchildren and great grandchildren and i will have to pay more taxes for this rubish we had no part in but, yay america, goooo economics
    AM prd.6

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  5. it is quite important for a city to maintain their religious tolerance, especially for New York. this city is prosperous because of individuals. people from different nations come here and contribute to this society so that they deserve to have their religions freely. i hope the situation can get better in the future
    Yan per 9

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  6. I felt that this article was a clear statement of the power of a diverse culture and accepting mindset. In a day and age where individuals rights and government control are at the forefront of every political debate, I feel that it is important to realize the very ideals that have brought the thriving city of New York to where it is today, and the article does a great job of reminding us that diversity and open-mindedness are the very ideals that New York was founded upon and owes much of its economic success to. I was not previously aware of the Dutch's modern thinking involving accepting and tolerant ideals that the English were smart enough to keep when they took over. It makes me wonder how New York would be different if the English were to scrap the Dutch ideals that were unheard of in Europe at the time. If this were to be the case, I am sure that New York would not be the "melting pot" that it is today and would not have the same delicate balance between individualism and government regulation that exists today.

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  7. Wow! This is really interesting. I think many of us often forget the history of NY, but it's really part of what makes NY what it is. One of the many reasons I love NYC is the diversity in people, ideas, etc, which leads to the tolerance, freedoms, understanding, and culture of NYC mentioned in the article. New York has been a leader and has inspired people since before it was even called New York. I also find it really interesting how the article discusses how the blend of collectivism and individualism go hand in hand with one another and how it leads to people having the incentive to do better. We were just discussing in AP Gov how one of the main fallacies of Socialism is that people lose the incentive to do well and to do their work. So it's interesting to see the opposite being discussed here, and I agree! People can't just be working in their own interests, but there needs to be some form of individualism as well in order to get new ideas, solutions, etc. And I do think many Americans have lost sight of this fact while they're trying to "win." But the only way for us to continue to do better is to find the balance between working together and having the freedom to explore our individuality.

    -Jessica, Pd 9

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  8. The impression I got from this article is something similar to "form follows function". That the economy of a society is determined by their past and culture. What makes New York City so unique, even amidst cities like Beijing, London, or Vegas is that it is extremely diverse. No other city has a demographic as ethnically, religiously, or culturally diverse as NYC which is responsible for the prosperity and unique demographic of NYC.

    And from this basis, NYC was a "melting pot" ever since the Dutch first settled. This diversity, freedom, and favorable location shaped NYC's economy into that of a global economic trade center (which it still is today). I think NYC is a perfect example of how a society's past and culture shapes economic structure of the society. If you compare NYC to any other city from the colonial period, it is evident that NYC walked a different path than other cities, creating the city it is today.

    -Ben Jung AP Eco period 9

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  9. Lauren Paik Pd 8

    think this article was really interesting for explaining how New York came to be. I think it's ironic and cool how New York was always diverse and had a mixed society to begin with ("18 languages were spoken in New Amsterdam at a time when its population was only about 500") and that New York was always a place of business. It's pretty amazing that the writer would use New York as the example because today it is a place that is constantly moving and where people seem to be so disparate. But learning about its past shows that even with such differences, people were able to collaborate together. So if people in the past were able to work together, I think people today should be more accepting since it is such a different and modernized era. This gives me hope and inspiration that as time continues on, people will start to realize that we need to come together to solve the issues that are going on today in America.

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  10. C-K Chang AP Eco pd 8September 16, 2014 at 8:52 PM

    It is nice to know that both individualism and a compromising spirit are still celebrated. I guess it is best to learn how to be an entrepreneur.

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  11. First off, I can't believe our state is already 350 years old. Normally, I feel like we're very young compared to other nations that have been around for centuries, but this number seems very official. It's amazing that 18 languages were once spoken among a population of 500 in New Amsterdam. Though New York City is still considered a melting pot with a large diverse population, most people don't seem to like when foreigners don't speak english and they can even be a bit xenophobic. I'm impressed at how the Dutch managed to find a balance between individualism and collectivism and prosper from it. Many people continue to disagree over how large a role our government should play in our daily lives which I sometimes find kind of ironic because I think each side wants the best for our nation, but they both have very different ideas on how to go about it. It's amazing to think how prominent of a role the Dutch played in our own state, yet even so, to this day my first thought at the word "Dutch" continues to be: clog shoes.

    - VL Period 8

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  12. Jugal Pd. 8
    I find it very interesting that, perhaps, if the Dutch had not settled New York and cultivated it the way they had, and if the English were the first ones to settle the land, New York and New York City may have been very different from how we know it. Although the Dutch introduced religious toleration to the new land in America, and the concept was not as popular anywhere else in the world at the time, I believe that religious tolerance would have become a characteristic of New York and America regardless; maybe just a little bit later. However, I think the Dutch had a huge impact on the entrepreneurial spirit which New York and NYC are know for today. New York's eventual role as the "financial capital of the world" was brought about directly from its roots with the Dutch and their development of their free-trading culture. This article helped me personally connect the fact that a society's experiences and culture does help shape their economic system and vitality.

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  13. Belal Taher- I thought it was really interesting how a huge part of New York's success was how it adopted a free market system. And what made this particularly interesting is it synergies very will with what I'm currently learning about in gov. Mr. Cillis is encouraging us to figure out what political perspective we have, and, before this year, I always considered myself to have very left-sided views. But after reading about how prosperous New York became with this type of market economy and how successful market economies have been in the past, I am starting to change my opinions. Although I don't like the idea of some people having drastically more than others and not using the money they have to help those who are less fortunate out, I realize that we need to have some sort of a market economy. You need incentive if you want people to work. And you need people to work, and work hard, if you want progress. So, basically, this article, alongside what I'm currently leaving in gov, encouraged my to challenge my previously held beliefs.

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  14. I agree with the overall thought that tradition builds the foundation for today's economic vitality. It is, like the article said, very apparent that much of New York's business-like atmosphere comes from the Dutch and its entrepreneurs in the 1600's (even before the English). There's a difference between New York City's entrepreneurship and any other American city's; its Dutch background can be a reason why. Really, though, I feel tradition is always a big play in even today's society because people are naturally against change (good or bad). Although this tradition makes up what is great about New York, it isn't surprising how hundreds of years of ideology is still kept today.

    Jim T

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  15. It's interesting to see that the reason NYC is so great because of the Dutch more than than anyone else. The British basically kept the principles instilled by the Dutch when they created NYC and Manhattan. Additionally, it seems like the key to success for NYC was the idea of individual ownership and personal property. It's a noble attempt to try to apply NYC's ideals tolerance and "capitalistic collectivism" (I know that's an oxymoron) to issues that affect the whole country, and I'm curious to see if it could actually work in most places.
    E.S. period 8.

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  16. Zeeshan - The op-ed piece precisely described New York's origins and its road to becoming the dynamic and modern city it continues to be today. I fully agree that tradition, especially in the case of New York (dating back to the Dutch and English occupation during the 1600s), has a significant role in the shape and vitality of an economic system. The piece focused on New York's original customs, religious tolerance and an entrepreneurial and free-trading attitude, which still exist to a great extent today. In addition, the need of a balance between the individual and the collective, as a form of sacrifice for the greater good, is also applicable. More often than not, humans are opposed to change, which could be a possible explanation as to why tradition continues to play such major part in the shape and vitality of an economic system.

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  17. The Source of New York’s Greatness exemplifies the everlasting notion that New York is one of a kind. Today, New York is a booming city attracting millions of people from all around the world. The city embodies capitalism and everything that it stands for. It only makes sense that the city was always deeply rooted by a society that encouraged growth. I find it fascinating that one of the most competitive commercial areas in the world began by the buying and selling of parcels. What I find particularly interesting is that despite being a city built around competition, tolerance and collectivism were key factors in developing Manhattan into what it is today. I think this idea is something we need to keep in mind today. As the article mentions we are in the midst of chaos and confusion and it’s important to realize that in order for us to move forward as a group, we can’t have such an individualistic mind set. New York has endured the better part of 350 years, if it wants to last another 350 people need to start implementing this idea of collectivism and actions for the greater good.
    -Tanzim Bhuiya (Period 9)

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  18. I understand how our discussion about culture influencing economic trends was relevant to understanding the difference between each nation's economic structure, but I don't know why we're celebrating the history and culture of New York in specific. As per right now, I wouldn't consider New York to be any more special than anywhere else in the U.S to be entrepreneurial. If I want to start a business here or in Noonecares, Kansas, I can, and as long as I do everything properly, I should reach the same level of success here as I would in Kansas. I do see how this cultural 'melting pot' facilitated for vast commerce in the past, but I feel that this idea is still represented in many other areas in the U.S and that New York isn't as special anymore as how the article suggests. It's still pretty cool how New York was one of the first places though. Keeping it swaggy since the 17th Century.

    A. Hirani Prd. 9

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  19. I agree with the article that the culture and tradition of a society helps to shape their economic system. New York was built into an entrepreneurial, free trading culture. New York is still heavily influenced by the foundations on which it was built on. A society usually refrains from change unless it is necessary for growth. Things such as how New York was so accepting of different cultures at the very beginning and how it prized individual freedom so much, and has not changed on those aspects show that the foundation of a society heavily impacts the present. The distinct entrepreneurship that New York was built on still remains prevalent today. - Karan L.

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  20. This was a very interesting article. It was fascinating to see the link between common held views and economic prosperity. New York's tolerant, open minded, and dynamic attitude allowed it to have a flourishing economy. While Europe was stuck in the constraining feudalism, New York Harbor was buzzing with trade and opportunities. I believe that the melting pot of New York continues to this day as New York City represents diversity and pioneering activities. From tolerance to social mobility, many factors have stimulated the economy in a beneficial way.
    AB

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  21. I thought this article was very inspirational - it made me proud to be a New Yorker. It's interesting to see that our economy is not a recent development, but growth of the New York's past economy. This article ties in well with what we learned today, as it shows the value of entrepreneurial spirit.
    - Shweta

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  22. I think it's sort of obvious that if people start finding ways to communicate better with each other then it will lead to better outcomes. You always hear that the key to success is working together. However, you don't really believe that cliche until you actually see a direct result from it. The fact that New York was originally created by the Dutch is probably why it is so big today. They cooperated with each other to make a very successful and unique economy.
    AA per 9

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  23. I found it very interesting how tolerance of religious differences allowed a free-trading culture to form because allowing new ideas turned into a golden age of science and art. The way I think of it, they welcomed everyone, which in turn statistically allowed for smarter minds to come together, which began this golden age in the Dutch Republic. Also, since the land in the Dutch provinces was individually owned and sold, it turned the Dutch into entrepreneurs. Since this mindset got sent to New Amsterdam, everyone there was nearly always a trader or entrepreneur. A quote that stood out was, “Who you were mattered less than what you could do,” because this line really exemplifies how the tolerance of all religions and people allowed for the free-trade economy to grow. I just don’t understand how if the city weren’t taken over by the British, it would have languished. I find it very coincidental how the English people who took over New Amsterdam realized the unique society and kept its features. If they were stubborn people, New York City would be way different than it is today. But the fact that they saw and kept the originality of it made Manhattan into the trading capital of the new land. -ArjunL

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  24. Kevin Chao
    I believe that this article is of utmost importance because it reminisces a significant but often forgotten event in American history. Although the 350th anniversary of the founding of New York may ostensibly impact only antiquarians, the truth of the matter is that it provides various economic influences on our culture today. I feel that this event should be more praised upon by New Yorkers, and even all American citizens because it reminds us of who we are today. The Dutch were able to implement an economic system based on the individual and entrepreneurial means of making money which defines our society today. Overall, I believe that this is a memorable event that which we can look back upon in times of political and economic divisions, such as our contemporary world.

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  25. I think that this article articulates the necessity of diversity in an economic sense very well. WIthout it, economies would remain stagnant and new york today would likely be just another city. It is important because it allows for me to have opportunities.

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  26. I found this article to be very intriguing. First, I did not know there was documentation of the creation of New York City. It was fascinating that the article revealed the Dutch influenced New York in the founding of New Amsterdam, not the British. Even though Europe consisted of strong societies with intolerant rulers, the Dutch went against the norm creating a society of religious tolerance and an entrepreneurial, free trading culture. It is truly innovative that the Dutch introduced an economic system of individual real estate when most of the world was feudal. They invented water management, which we still perform today. This created a flourishing economic system for New York. It is true that once all cultures are free to express their diverse ideas in a free trade system, individuals will create a stronger economy of new thoughts. This spark lit by the Dutch spread throughout the world eventually over many centuries, creating strong economies. If there is not a mixed society of different cultures and ideas I do not believe economies can truly flourish. Instead of not working together I believe we could make our economy stronger by reintroducing the idea of the Dutch, being tolerant to differences and willing to compromise with each other.
    Lauren S. Period 6.

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  27. I always knew that there were some reminants of Dutch heritage embedded into New York and what it has become, however, I never knew that it affected us that much. Ussually, we believe our policies and culture as a society derive from the British and later on, the large masses of Irish, Italian, Jewish, Latino, and Asian immigrants that we have recieved in the years to come. However, our diverse, tolerant, and money-obsessed nature actually comes from the Dutch, and we seem to overlook that. Therefore, the fact that the Dutch and thier contributions to New York affect us more today than ever is what really struck me while reading this article.
    - Maisha Savani PD.8 AP Economics

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  28. I think it's interesting to learn about New York's history from an economic perspective. You get the political background with the Dutch New Amsterdam and a little of the social background with cultural pluralism in a history class, but I think economic background is more key to understanding New York as it is today, including the tensions that plague it. I thought the discussion of widening divisions in an area once united by its common entrepreneurial drive was especially relevant.

    Karan Singhal Pd9

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  29. I find it cool that New York City was and sti is one of the more diverse and accepting places. Without the Dutch and their beliefs Manhattan may not have been what it is today. They pictured a city there and now it's one of the biggest cities in the world

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  30. It's interesting to see that the reason NYC is so great because of the Dutch more than than anyone else. The British basically kept the principles instilled by the Dutch when they created NYC and Manhattan. Additionally, it seems like the key to success for NYC was the idea of individual ownership and personal property. It's a noble attempt to try to apply NYC's ideals tolerance and "capitalistic collectivism" (I know that's an oxymoron) to issues that affect the whole country, and I'm curious to see if it could actually work in most places.
    E.S. per 8

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  31. I did not know that September 8th was the anniversary of New York’s birth let alone the time in history where so many events took place. I don’t really know how exactly to react toward this event. I think it’s a monumental day in our nations history, after all “The anniversary of New York’s birth — or more precisely, rechristening — is an occasion to recall that tolerance of differences and an enlightened blend of individualism and collectivism formed a new kind of society on an island called Manhattan, one that helped shape American culture. In a time of chaos and confusion, we would do well to recommit ourselves to the notion that such a blend of forces is still the best way forward.” Despite that fact that there was a lot of controversy and conflict that occurred in the 17th century, it should still be a day that is recognized for our state.
    -Melinda, Period 6

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  32. I found this to be an interesting article because of the last part. The author states that the diversity that America is known for actually stemmed from Manhattan. As someone who does not enjoy commuting to the NYC, I was surprised to find this out.

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  33. I feel like celebrating Sept.8 as simply the birth of New York is too broad. Like what the article says, much of the economy today, sprouted even before the English took over New Amsterdam. I agree with the authors opinion on how this specific day is undervalued by many people. If we not for the Dutch, much of what we do today such as independent businesses/ trade would not even exist today. We should really give the dutch more credit and recognition for that, instead of just thinking of the birth of New York. paridhi

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  34. From this article, it seems as though America’s political culture is ruining economic markets because it is more divided than ever over such issues, with the role of government and the freedom of the individual. However, because America is more diverse and NY is more diverse, this should allow for economic markets to have an advantage because it can focus on the consumer and his/her need.
    We learned in class that a society's experiences and culture can shape their economic system so I think NY and America should have a better change of having a successful economic system because of its flexible, diverse target consumer. Therefore, entrepreneurs who lived in NY or a diverse area, should be able to have an advantage in the economic system because they know what people want.
    - Lydia G

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  35. I found it very interesting that even before England had conquered New York, the culture of a tolerant society, and a business based economy was already set in place. That even before New York had been a place where many cultures were tolerated because of the goal of the city being business. I think because New York has such foundations it is strongly united today. The roots are so deep that why our traditions run so strong.

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  36. The Dutch had it right before everyone else! I can't help, but imagine what the world would be like, if it had followed what the Dutch were doing: it would probably be a much better place (at least better than it is right now). The Dutch were the original entrepreneurs! They instilled the basics of our economic and business values that we hold true too today, If more people knew about the roots of New York, I think they would become more understanding of all the races and religions present in the state. But, needless to say, there would still be people that would not listen and remain ignorant.
    The story of the people coming together to build dams and dikes is very relatable to that of the story you told us when superstorm Sandy hit Long beach; it's truly inspirational. It shows that even in times of hardship and distress, Americans will join together and pull through.
    kc period 8 (your favorite one)

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  37. This is a Theory that may work for some unique places but defiantly not all. New York is such a unique place that the theory of going back to the way it was in the past may just work. New York is a pace where the entrepreneur has so much control of what happened and we need to find a way to get back to that
    -Thomas F

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  38. For as long as it has existed, New York has always been a place that is unique. If you walk down the streets today, you are likely to hear many different languages, see many different ethnicities and witness various cultures. If you get into a taxi, the driver might speak broken English; if you order lunch at a restaurant, it might be Greek, Italian or French food; if you turn on the radio, you might hear Spanish music or Jamaican reggae. All of these experiences are part of the fabric of New York, just like it was 350 years ago. New York has always been a sort of melting pot that welcomed immigrants. In fact, read the words inscribed on the Statue of Liberty- “ Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free…..” New Yorkers have always had spirit and have always tolerated differences. These qualities have made it a living ,breathing and dynamic place to live.
    - M.B.

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  39. I definitely agree that our past, our culture and our experiences all help shape our economic system and vitality. I do not believe that New York would be the way that it is today if the Dutch did not create New Amsterdam based on principles of religious tolerance and an entrepreneurial, free-trading culture. We have kept these same principals to this day, adopting an importance of individual freedom along the way. We took the principals we started off with, and expanded upon them and let them grow. It is because of our original open and free market that New York continues to have a free and individual economic system.

    Isabel period 6

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  40. This article presents a really good point about how New York and society in general has focused more on how it has transformed socially and politically over hundred of years; however, those factors had a huge influence on how our economy has shaped. The fact that New York acted as a melting pot and was religiously tolerant by the Dutch allowed for the diversity of cultures, ideas, and opinions. This definitely impacted how New York has developed into a entrepreneurial and free-trading culture if people were allowed to express their ideas and become involved in the marketplace. The economy wouldn't become as independent and free if society was under a single or rigid authority. But what made this economic innovation significant was that it still resonates with society today. Individuals and even groups of people are always creating products and trade, and that favorable balance allows our economy to be successful. People should reflect about where our ability to live in such a free world came from as we continue to develop and progress in the future. -S.S. Pd 9

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  41. This article brought to light a point, that myself, and i am sure others New Yorkers as well, were completely unaware of. It is amazing to see how the diverse beginnings of New York have translated into the remarkable prosperity that befalls upon the city today. One statement that blew my mind was that within the populations of 500 that lived in New Amsterdam under Dutch rule in the 1600's, an incredible 18 different languages were spoken. In a day and age where contact with the world outside of one's own region was still rare, this fact was astounding. it was very interesting to read how through the strong, diverse efforts of the Dutch, and the continued efforts of the powerful British empire, New York was harbored and turned into a unique diverse city, unlike any other in the world and played a pivotal role in the development of American culture. -A.R. Pd.8

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  42. It is interesting how Dutch principles allowed New York to flourish even after England took over. Every else in Europe intolerance was practiced. However, England saw the unique characteristics of New York and chose to leave it undisturbed. This gave prosperity in the area. It seems like New York is a prime example of a strong economy with its principles of tolerance and free trade that gave power to individuals.
    - Won Park period 9

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  43. Theres that saying that two heads are better than one. It actual is. And just like that saying, having a diverse society filled with many races and cultures is better than having one. New York City is the definition of a melting pot or a diverse society. Many envy that New York City is that. This is what makes up NYC: a thriving city. This thriving city and its diverse background was able to achieve great feats in the world as becoming the business capital of the world. With the reconstruction of the Freedom Tower, in replace of the fallen WTC, New York is back to what the tower signifies. A thriving city with amazing feats and wealth. The dutch are the reason for this diversity and thank god for england for not changing up the place. England improved the region but the Dutch laid the foundation necessary for the City to thrive. Not many people know this history about NYC and i think that we should know this. i was born and raised as a New Yorker so i can see how true this article is about NYC while outsiders may disagree. New York City is a powerhouse of wealth. NYC signifies what America is. A diverse country that is a superpower in many different ways: business, money, military; its the ideal model of a industrialized and diverse country. These days, people have forget the important thing of what makes America so special. People need to realize the facts and stop only thinking about themselves and embrace the diversity that makes us so unique. So Happy Birthday New York City.
    - N.G. period 9

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  44. Robert Lis Pd 9
    This article shows the foundation of New York's economy, starting all the way back in the 1600's by the Dutch. Over the years, new people and cultures were introduced to New York, and the state eventually became like a "melting pot". This diversity that we have in New York really impacts our economy and overall life. The tolerance we had ever since the beginning really allowed for new ideas and traditions to shape our lifestyle. Consequently, New York developed a strong unity and functions as one whole together. I believe that the Dutch should receive more credit for founding our economic system, although over the years our system has changed and various other people/cultures helped mold it into the system we have now.

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  45. Yash Shah
    This article really opened my eyes to how unique and significant New York is. this wasn't only the 350th anniversary of the state we live in but also the idea of free market, and tolerance to religious differences. we live in one of the first places in history to be able to have religious freedom and free market. As a result New York's economy boomed and today we are one of the most business oriented cities in the world. People refer to New York as a melting pot of cultures because when immigrants came to America, many stayed in New York. This allowed for New Yorks cultural diversity to immensely expand to where it is today. where one can walk down a NYC block and pass people from cultures all over the world, smell foods originating from all over the world, and hear languages spoken all over the world. NEw York is an amazing city, which because of its free market and religious tolerance, is one the most successful cities the world has seen to date.

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  46. I think that it is really interesting how much culture can influence the way an economy runs and such. I also like how the article takes into view how New York was influenced by the Dutch, but it can still possibly be influenced to this day- after all, there is an eclectic range for the US economy in terms of culture, since New York is one of the giant centers for diversity.

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  47. Won Park Period 9
    It is very interesting that New York became one of the greatest cities in the world by being influenced by Dutch principles of tolerance and entrepreneurship. Even more fortunate is that the British took over New Amsterdam and kept its founding principles the same. Had the Dutch kept the city, it would have failed due to their military defeat. The article has a good point about the issues that plague our society today. Maybe if we just went back to what made New York and America great, we could move forward.

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  48. Jonathan Chen - Period 9

    I didn't realize that the Dutch had such a crucial impact on the development of New York, allowing for religious tolerance and a free-trading culture. It's also interesting how England managed to take control of the city just as the Dutch Republic was beginning to decline. Throughout our history, it seems as if we had always been guided by the dominant European countries of the time period, allowing our evolving city to flourish as much as it did. The last paragraph also really caught my eye with its reference to the division of modern politics. Although I may not always agree with others' opinions, it's reassuring to know that this mixture of ideas is what allowed our society to develop hundreds of years ago.

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  49. I think the diversity that was present in New York City in 1664 is reflected in the diversity that is present in New York City today. However, it is easy to forget the significance of our unique cultural blend. New York City is built on a history of religious and cultural tolerance and acceptance, and we must remember this history in order to move forward successfully. One of the most interesting facts presented in this article is that there were 18 languages spoken in New Amsterdam when there was a population of only 500. This is proof of the extent that diversity in New York City reached.

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  50. It is interesting to see how the governing bodies can either help or harm their economy. New York is a powerful city today because of the initial ways of the Dutch when it was New Amsterdam. Their policy of religious tolerance and emphasis on the entrepreneurial free trading culture allowed for Manhattan to be global marketplace it is today. By pioneering an economic system based on individual ownership of land, the governing bodies gave people power and freedom to do what they wanted. A balance between the collective and individual is the foundation on which America was created. I agree with Russell Shorto that today our political culture is so polarized that its tensions are causing a crisis at home and abroad. We get the balance back in order for our economy to thrive again.
    AB pd. 9

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  51. This article shows that New York was ahead of its time in many different ways while showing that its still the modern example of successful cultural diversity and a thriving economy based off of equal opportunity investment. Today Manhattan contains the diamond district, wall street, time square,etc. which make this one of the premier cities in the world. New York was always tolerant of cultural diversity from its beginnings as New Amsterdam in the 1620's the dutch advocated for diversity and a free economy. Without this influence from the English and the dutch New york probably would not have the free flowing and successful economy that it has today. other major cities and new forming cities should use new york as the role model for success because of how special and truly unique it is. Stephen F. period 6

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  52. As a New Yorker myself I was sort of ashamed that I did not know a lot about the formation of the place I live in today, and I think that has to do with the lack of emphasis placed on that impactful event. I feel like teaching us about the formation of our home state would not only educate us on our history, but also on economic and societal practices that were successful in creating such a diverse and flourishing place. In todays world, more emphasis is placed on what is in it for the individual than what the individual can do for the group as a whole, and I think that teaching how the Dutch settlers built New Amsterdam from nothing by working together and cooperating would be very enlightening for many.
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  53. It is interesting to date our economic success and outlook back to our Dutch roots. The English influence is seen in our New York Cities. From this point forward the mentality of New York, the city that never sleeps, the no nonsense attitude is instilled. It is crazy to even think about tracing back to our beginnings but precedents are always set. Due to social and political factors things have obviously changed, but that same market economy concept runs through and can be seen

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  54. I didn’t know when the Dutch settled they brought ideas of a diverse culture and population as well as a free economy that we continue to live by 350 years later. One fact in particular from the article that I found interesting was in the 17th century the population was only about 500 people yet 18 languages were spoken in New Amsterdam which has increased to today. This article shows at the time New York was advanced and ahead of its time. The free economy that early New York possessed allowed it to grow rapidly into the worlds most productive and successful economy. Future start up cities should base their cities economy based on the fundamental idea that helped New York City thrive.
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  55. It is enlightening to be reminded that New York City was the place people went so that they could live their lives without fear of intolerance and so that they could economically flourish as a result of their own merit. The concept of a free-trade market and entrepreneurialism became the basis of individual prosperity which, three and a half centuries ago, was the most honorable and worthy title someone could hold in the city’s society. But this article was not written to remind New Yorkers of how proud we should be of our roots, but it was written to awake us to the “widening divide” that politics and religious intolerance is creating. With terrorism at a high, religious tension is growing and individualism is dwindling. This article reminds us to remember where our liberating American culture came from and to work towards bringing our society back to the principles it was founded upon. (Ariana Stefanidis)

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  56. I thought that this article was very interesting, as I wasn’t familiar with the fact that the Dutch were responsible for two concepts that really define New York (the religious tolerance and the entrepreneur culture). Knowing Manhattan to be so diverse today and seeing that it has become this way because of New Amsterdam’s early diversity within its early 500 people was an opinion I hadn’t heard of. I’m not sure I agree with it, as it almost sounds a bit exaggerated and biased. I almost feel like credit for being as entrepreneurially successful and cultural diverse is quickly taken away from Manhattan because the article is really focusing on solely Dutch influence. The article says it was the Dutch who gave Manhattan these ideas that are now what defines its identity and also that because the Dutch held back the sea this is what allowed for the “rise of prosperity and society based on singular achievement.” I just feel like ideas can be implemented, but it takes a certain society and people to really run with them and create an identity for a place, so for the idea to be that we almost owe so much to the Dutch didn’t really sit well with me. Maybe it’s just me! -Tara O'Shea

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  57. I thought that this article was very interesting, as I wasn’t familiar with the fact that the Dutch were responsible for two concepts that really define New York (the religious tolerance and the entrepreneur culture). Knowing Manhattan to be so diverse today and seeing that it has become this way because of New Amsterdam’s early diversity within its early 500 people was an opinion I hadn’t heard of. I’m not sure I agree with it, as it almost sounds a bit exaggerated and biased. I almost feel like credit for being as entrepreneurially successful and cultural diverse is quickly taken away from Manhattan because the article is really focusing on solely Dutch influence. The article says it was the Dutch who gave Manhattan these ideas that are now what defines its identity and also that because the Dutch held back the sea this is what allowed for the “rise of prosperity and society based on singular achievement.” I just feel like ideas can be implemented, but it takes a certain society and people to really run with them and create an identity for a place, so for the idea to be that we almost owe so much to the Dutch didn’t really sit well with me. Maybe it’s just me! -Tara O'Shea

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