I found this article interesting because of the topic. The debate in this article was wether or not using the school nick name "Redskin." I like the fact that the students of the school news paper are sticking up for themselves. But i find it a little useless to have a discussion over a word that pretty much describes your high school. Its the football teams nick name, it is on the welcoming sign to the school and the word does not mean anything offensive. They use it because an Indian tribe had a river or once lived there, so its monumental. I think its unfair that this is even a discussion, I do not see who or why using this word "Redskin" is so offensive. Everyone has their own opinion, but I feel if its a school nickname and its something in remembrance of a past tribe, leave it. C.N period 1.
I think the public is being too strict now a days. These kids didn't mean to use the word as they thought they would have been interperted as. But we are too attached to our rule for too long. And I feel like it should soon be a time to make new sets of law to match with the current era RS- pd.4
I think the students have the right to say whatever they want if its not intended to be insulting to someone in this case what they said wasn't bad because that's how everyone refers to that team it had no intention on targeting anyone in a negative way
I think the red skin ban from that school newspaper is technically both constitutional and unconstitutional. Its is constitutional because the students have a right to freedom of speech and press. They have the right to say whatever they want. This is also unconstitutional because it does have a meaning of race and racism in their, which would make it unconstitutional. The question really is how much freedom of speech do we really have. Because we can't always just say what we want. For example you can't walk onto a plan and scream bomb. That would mean dangers to others as well because people would be panicking and would get hurt. Your freedom of speech has a limit and that limit is when your words puts others in danger of getting hurt than it is no longer considered freedom of speech. So in this case they are allowed to say the word red skin in their newspaper because it was putting anybody in danger. Zaid Javaid
i think that there is no reason for this school to bug out over the work "redskins" being used in their school newspaper. the student who wrote the article was reffering to another schools football team called the redskins. at that other school their is a banner that says "everybody do the redskins rumble". that clearly shows that its fine to use the work redskins in a highschool. also there is an nfl team named the redskins, clearly the word is everywhere, so why cant it be in this school newspaper.
This article shows that people are offended by the term redskins and that they are trying to put a stop to it being used in their school this shows part of the first amendment, equal protection. However other members say that they want it used because it is a freedom of their speach wich is also part of the first amendment . I am all for people having feedom of speech but not when it is at somoneelses expence. I think that if it offends somone, or a group of people the term should not be used. I think there should be a compromise in the school and that they should pick another mascot to represent their school.
I think that the school over reacted because using the word “Redskin” in the newspaper wasn't anything bad. It was nothing against the Native Americans. There's even a team in the NFL that is named the Redskins and it is not like they are insulting the Native Americans. It was a big deal when their really shouldn't be. - Aleem Sutar
it is matt I think that the team being redskines is offensive to natives but I don't feel like the redskines masckot is not being prejudec to Native americans
I tihnk it is ridiculous for there to be a problem with using the word "Redskin" esspecially since it is the schools mascot. It is not being used in an offensive way, therefore, the school has to right to cencor that word being used. It violates the students first amendment right for the freedom of speech. Although schools have the right to bend students constitutional rights, there is a line that cannot be crossed in this process and this article is a perfect example of said line being crossed. -Ryan H.
The students of Neshaminy High should be able to say what they want and believe. the school mascot was not intended on offending any one with its slogan. the natives shouldn't be offended about the "Redskins" and it shouldn't be changed because of its traditional name since 1972. Per3, francesca b
I think that the students should have freedom to say what they want and should be able to voice their opinion on how they feel about the school mascot. I don't the school mascot intended to insult individual students of Neshaminy high school. The name Redskins shouldn’t be changed because it has been their traditional name since their 1972 football team.
Asma I. I agree with this article. I do not believe that people should be put down. Although the term "redskin" is a bad word and it is a school football teams name it is not fair that people are being called this. They should not be punished. In the article a 16 year old boy states, "People are (saying), 'Just give in. It doesn't really matter.' But it's a huge deal, that we're being forced to say something that we don't want to". McGoldrick is a person who is very affectionate to his team and it is a big deal. People should not be called these terms. It is rude and disrespectful. Terms like this hurt people.
I think that the "Redskins" should be used as a football team name. The name has been around for many years and it is not intended to discriminate against or insult any group of people. Using the word in a different context other than referring to the football team i believe is not acceptable. That should not be allowed however i dont see anything wrong with naming a football team the "Redskins".
The first Amendment is about giving people in United States a freedom of speech and do anything they want under the law. But 16 years old junior student was forced to say that he didn't want to. So because of that there has been some small issue in Neshaminy High School. PK period3
Some people find the word redskin as an offensive word to Native Americans. But others believe its not an offensive word because they are not insulting them in any way, and a football team is named after them so people don't see how they are being offensive J.S
Some people think being called a Redskin is bad. Others don't think anything of the word. I don't believe that the school should have to change their mascots name. The kids who take offence to the term shouldn't be offended by it. Its seems more of a respect thing more then a derogatory term because where the school is located used to be Native Indian land. Frank D. Period 4
I guess the entire article is based on interpretation. Though by the info presented by the article says that "Redskins" is the nickname for the teams at Neshaminy High School the school officials believed it was a derogatory statement. This is another argument that involves the 2nd Amendment and what people can and cannot say. The students who are trying to voice their opinions are allowed to say what they can, and they never meant to be harmful.
I really thought this article was interesting because it is true that the first admendment should come and be followed before anyones else's opinion or side. the constitution has be followed by the US for centuries and it is not right if the school in philly decides to go against it.I like this certain line from the article "It's exactly what we tell young people in the abstract we want them to do: use their voices in positive ways to bring about social change. And yet when they tried to do it in practice, the school slapped them down," he said. "That's a bad place for an educator to be." I totally agree with this quote because we come to school to practice our rights but the schools that students attend actually limit our rights even more. -CH-
The First Amendment guarantees the right of free expression, which includes freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, freedom of religion and freedom of speech. After reading the article I believe the students should have the right to express themselves. If what they wrote would cause chaos then maybe I would agree that it would have to be reviewed further, but in this case they are just making something bigger than what it is. I am sure others would agree with me when I say that in school is where we learn about Amendments and our school should support what they have taught us. Jonathan Moreira
I think it's an ambiguous issue because it's hard to say whether the term i offensive or not. Some people could be offended because the meaning that the term contains both literally and historically, and some could say that it's not based on racism, but on the spirit of the school or the region. I think, anyway, the name should be changed if any group of people is offended and annoyed because this kind of nickname should be unifying people and give a sense of kinship. and if some people are offended, it will be meaningless.
This wrong because kids in school want to change the name of the team because the "Redskins" is a native american name and its racist in a way so i think its fair to suspend them. - Muhammad Patel Period 3
I think the teenagers were correct for wanted to change the name of the Red Skins because it can be highly offensive towards native americans. The team has been named the red skins for a long time, but i feel that they never considered the name to be offensive. Teams like Kansas City Chief can be offensive too having to be relating to the native american race. If the name is fine for native americans then they should be able to keep it, but if they feel it's offensive it should be changed quickly. - Preston Wong
I feel like it's not that big of a deal for a school to use the term "redskins". I feel like its fine unless people actually start being racist. Students shouldn't be in trouble for using that term. There are many mascots that have Native American references like chiefs, or Indians. I believe the school is blowing it out of porportion. Period 3 JT
I think that it's good that teens wanted to change the name of their football team. It is pretty offensive to those that are Native American. It's weird that they've had the team for a long time but no one ever noticed that it was racist. I also feel that the kids shouldn't have been suspended because it's not like they chose the name for the team-- the school probably did. JT period 3
I think that the debate of the article is interesting. I completely agree with the freedom of speech, and the students didn't want the term "Redskins" to be interpreted in the way that it was. Although, I do like that the students were standing up for themselves. I feel that public schools take certain things too seriously. I thought that the debate in this article was very interesting and informative. -Sam Mazzilli pd.3
There is only one truth, but many different aspects to view it. The First Amendment was written by people. Therefore, depends on their views, they can each have a different saying.
“Loco Parentis” I called out when the teacher gave the definition to the class that it means when a student’s freedom of speech is limited in school. However what I later learned from this article is we as students have the right to express our freedoms of expression in school. Those kids from Neshaminy High school had the right to use the word “Redskins” which in no means meant to offend anyone but actually serve as a respectful term and mascot for their school. I really think a conflict comes between Loco Parentis and the first amendment which is the right of freedom of expression from government interference.
This article makes me very happy because it's nice to see kids have amind of their own for once. If they don't like a work and they think it is offensive then they shouldn't have to use it. I don't think anyone should be forced to use a word they don't like. Sean M.
C. C. Period 8 I think that the actions that the students took were not ment to offend anyone and they therefore should not be penalized for anything that they have done because they have the right to say these things. The fact that they said the word Redskins does not mean that they ment to offend anyone and therefore the school took the comment way too seriously.
As the article said the word "redskin" hasn't been decided if the word is offensive or not. Which in my opinon there shouldn't be a problem with the use of the word. It may cause some conflict and arguments because other people have different views. The first amendment includes the freedom of speech and press so even though a word can be considered offensive it still can be used with the person not purposly being offensive . jm
The arguement in this article was if the school nickname "redskin"should be used. I like the that the students of the school news paper are sticking up for themselves. Its the football teams nick name that they are arguing about, it is on the welcoming sign to the school and the word isnt bad.I dont see why using this word "Redskin" is so offensive and bad towards some students in the schoool.If something has been a tradition for so long why would you change it now? K.k. period 4
In my opinon, I found this article interesting yet debatble becase if the highschool kids want to usse the word "redskins" for there football team, they should. It's named after a tribe that used to live there anyways. I dont think its that big of a deal cosidering out 1st amendment rights. VF pr4
So, what should be done? Should they change the name? I don't think it's our say. If the name is offensive, then don't root for them. They will loose support and that's their fault for having a bad name. If they want this support back, then it would be smartest to change the name. The Native American population isn't very large, but they are still a population. They still have feelings like the rest of us, and they still have the ability to choose who to support. JH period 3
I found this article interesting because of the topic. The debate in this article was wether or not using the school nick name "Redskin." I like the fact that the students of the school news paper are sticking up for themselves. But i find it a little useless to have a discussion over a word that pretty much describes your high school. Its the football teams nick name, it is on the welcoming sign to the school and the word does not mean anything offensive. They use it because an Indian tribe had a river or once lived there, so its monumental. I think its unfair that this is even a discussion, I do not see who or why using this word "Redskin" is so offensive. Everyone has their own opinion, but I feel if its a school nickname and its something in remembrance of a past tribe, leave it.
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I think the public is being too strict now a days. These kids didn't mean to use the word as they thought they would have been interperted as. But we are too attached to our rule for too long. And I feel like it should soon be a time to make new sets of law to match with the current era
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I think the students have the right to say whatever they want if its not intended to be insulting to someone in this case what they said wasn't bad because that's how everyone refers to that team it had no intention on targeting anyone in a negative way
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I think the red skin ban from that school newspaper is technically both constitutional and unconstitutional. Its is constitutional because the students have a right to freedom of speech and press. They have the right to say whatever they want. This is also unconstitutional because it does have a meaning of race and racism in their, which would make it unconstitutional. The question really is how much freedom of speech do we really have. Because we can't always just say what we want. For example you can't walk onto a plan and scream bomb. That would mean dangers to others as well because people would be panicking and would get hurt. Your freedom of speech has a limit and that limit is when your words puts others in danger of getting hurt than it is no longer considered freedom of speech. So in this case they are allowed to say the word red skin in their newspaper because it was putting anybody in danger.
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i think that there is no reason for this school to bug out over the work "redskins" being used in their school newspaper. the student who wrote the article was reffering to another schools football team called the redskins. at that other school their is a banner that says "everybody do the redskins rumble". that clearly shows that its fine to use the work redskins in a highschool. also there is an nfl team named the redskins, clearly the word is everywhere, so why cant it be in this school newspaper.
ReplyDeleteThis article shows that people are offended by the term redskins and that they are trying to put a stop to it being used in their school this shows part of the first amendment, equal protection. However other members say that they want it used because it is a freedom of their speach wich is also part of the first amendment . I am all for people having feedom of speech but not when it is at somoneelses expence. I think that if it offends somone, or a group of people the term should not be used. I think there should be a compromise in the school and that they should pick another mascot to represent their school.
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I think that the school over reacted because using the word “Redskin” in the newspaper wasn't anything bad. It was nothing against the Native Americans. There's even a team in the NFL that is named the Redskins and it is not like they are insulting the Native Americans. It was a big deal when their really shouldn't be.
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it is matt I think that the team being redskines is offensive to natives but I don't feel like the redskines masckot is not being prejudec to Native americans
ReplyDeleteI tihnk it is ridiculous for there to be a problem with using the word "Redskin" esspecially since it is the schools mascot. It is not being used in an offensive way, therefore, the school has to right to cencor that word being used. It violates the students first amendment right for the freedom of speech. Although schools have the right to bend students constitutional rights, there is a line that cannot be crossed in this process and this article is a perfect example of said line being crossed.
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The students of Neshaminy High should be able to say what they want and believe. the school mascot was not intended on offending any one with its slogan. the natives shouldn't be offended about the "Redskins" and it shouldn't be changed because of its traditional name since 1972. Per3, francesca b
ReplyDeleteI think that the students should have freedom to say what they want and should be able to voice their opinion on how they feel about the school mascot. I don't the school mascot intended to insult individual students of Neshaminy high school. The name Redskins shouldn’t be changed because it has been their traditional name since their 1972 football team.
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Asma I.
ReplyDeleteI agree with this article. I do not believe that people should be put down. Although the term "redskin" is a bad word and it is a school football teams name it is not fair that people are being called this. They should not be punished. In the article a 16 year old boy states, "People are (saying), 'Just give in. It doesn't really matter.' But it's a huge deal, that we're being forced to say something that we don't want to". McGoldrick is a person who is very affectionate to his team and it is a big deal. People should not be called these terms. It is rude and disrespectful. Terms like this hurt people.
I think that the "Redskins" should be used as a football team name. The name has been around for many years and it is not intended to discriminate against or insult any group of people. Using the word in a different context other than referring to the football team i believe is not acceptable. That should not be allowed however i dont see anything wrong with naming a football team the "Redskins".
ReplyDeleteThe first Amendment is about giving people in United States a freedom of speech and do anything they want under the law. But 16 years old junior student was forced to say that he didn't want to. So because of that there has been some small issue in Neshaminy High School.
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Some people find the word redskin as an offensive word to Native Americans. But others believe its not an offensive word because they are not insulting them in any way, and a football team is named after them so people don't see how they are being offensive J.S
ReplyDeleteSome people think being called a Redskin is bad. Others don't think anything of the word. I don't believe that the school should have to change their mascots name. The kids who take offence to the term shouldn't be offended by it. Its seems more of a respect thing more then a derogatory term because where the school is located used to be Native Indian land.
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I guess the entire article is based on interpretation. Though by the info presented by the article says that "Redskins" is the nickname for the teams at Neshaminy High School the school officials believed it was a derogatory statement. This is another argument that involves the 2nd Amendment and what people can and cannot say. The students who are trying to voice their opinions are allowed to say what they can, and they never meant to be harmful.
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I really thought this article was interesting because it is true that the first admendment should come and be followed before anyones else's opinion or side. the constitution has be followed by the US for centuries and it is not right if the school in philly decides to go against it.I like this certain line from the article "It's exactly what we tell young people in the abstract we want them to do: use their voices in positive ways to bring about social change. And yet when they tried to do it in practice, the school slapped them down," he said. "That's a bad place for an educator to be." I totally agree with this quote because we come to school to practice our rights but the schools that students attend actually limit our rights even more.
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The First Amendment guarantees the right of free expression, which includes freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, freedom of religion and freedom of speech. After reading the article I believe the students should have the right to express themselves. If what they wrote would cause chaos then maybe I would agree that it would have to be reviewed further, but in this case they are just making something bigger than what it is. I am sure others would agree with me when I say that in school is where we learn about Amendments and our school should support what they have taught us.
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I think it's an ambiguous issue because it's hard to say whether the term i offensive or not. Some people could be offended because the meaning that the term contains both literally and historically, and some could say that it's not based on racism, but on the spirit of the school or the region. I think, anyway, the name should be changed if any group of people is offended and annoyed because this kind of nickname should be unifying people and give a sense of kinship. and if some people are offended, it will be meaningless.
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This wrong because kids in school want to change the name of the team because the "Redskins" is a native american name and its racist in a way so i think its fair to suspend them.
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I think the teenagers were correct for wanted to change the name of the Red Skins because it can be highly offensive towards native americans. The team has been named the red skins for a long time, but i feel that they never considered the name to be offensive. Teams like Kansas City Chief can be offensive too having to be relating to the native american race. If the name is fine for native americans then they should be able to keep it, but if they feel it's offensive it should be changed quickly. - Preston Wong
ReplyDeleteI feel like it's not that big of a deal for a school to use the term "redskins". I feel like its fine unless people actually start being racist. Students shouldn't be in trouble for using that term. There are many mascots that have Native American references like chiefs, or Indians. I believe the school is blowing it out of porportion.
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I think that it's good that teens wanted to change the name of their football team. It is pretty offensive to those that are Native American. It's weird that they've had the team for a long time but no one ever noticed that it was racist. I also feel that the kids shouldn't have been suspended because it's not like they chose the name for the team-- the school probably did.
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I think that the debate of the article is interesting. I completely agree with the freedom of speech, and the students didn't want the term "Redskins" to be interpreted in the way that it was. Although, I do like that the students were standing up for themselves. I feel that public schools take certain things too seriously. I thought that the debate in this article was very interesting and informative.
ReplyDelete-Sam Mazzilli pd.3
There is only one truth, but many different aspects to view it. The First Amendment was written by people. Therefore, depends on their views, they can each have a different saying.
ReplyDelete“Loco Parentis” I called out when the teacher gave the definition to the class that it means when a student’s freedom of speech is limited in school. However what I later learned from this article is we as students have the right to express our freedoms of expression in school. Those kids from Neshaminy High school had the right to use the word “Redskins” which in no means meant to offend anyone but actually serve as a respectful term and mascot for their school. I really think a conflict comes between Loco Parentis and the first amendment which is the right of freedom of expression from government interference.
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In my opinion the students in this article should be allowed to say what they want...as long as it is not hurting anyone directly.
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This article makes me very happy because it's nice to see kids have amind of their own for once. If they don't like a work and they think it is offensive then they shouldn't have to use it. I don't think anyone should be forced to use a word they don't like.
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ReplyDeleteI think that the actions that the students took were not ment to offend anyone and they therefore should not be penalized for anything that they have done because they have the right to say these things. The fact that they said the word Redskins does not mean that they ment to offend anyone and therefore the school took the comment way too seriously.
As the article said the word "redskin" hasn't been decided if the word is offensive or not. Which in my opinon there shouldn't be a problem with the use of the word. It may cause some conflict and arguments because other people have different views. The first amendment includes the freedom of speech and press so even though a word can be considered offensive it still can be used with the person not purposly being offensive .
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The arguement in this article was if the school nickname "redskin"should be used. I like the that the students of the school news paper are sticking up for themselves. Its the football teams nick name that they are arguing about, it is on the welcoming sign to the school and the word isnt bad.I dont see why using this word "Redskin" is so offensive and bad towards some students in the schoool.If something has been a tradition for so long why would you change it now?
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In my opinon, I found this article interesting yet debatble becase if the highschool kids want to usse the word "redskins" for there football team, they should. It's named after a tribe that used to live there anyways. I dont think its that big of a deal cosidering out 1st amendment rights.
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So, what should be done? Should they change the name? I don't think it's our say. If the name is offensive, then don't root for them. They will loose support and that's their fault for having a bad name. If they want this support back, then it would be smartest to change the name. The Native American population isn't very large, but they are still a population. They still have feelings like the rest of us, and they still have the ability to choose who to support.
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