Friday, April 17, 2015

Labor2

This is the follow up to David Graeber' s "BS Jobs"  This is a little more technical but read it through, the ending makes it worthwhile.

16 comments:

  1. Deepika K Period 7
    This article didn't really agree with David Graeber's article in that jobs are meaningless and "BS" because the writer says that "the issue is not that jobs used to have meaning and now they don't; most jobs in most periods have undoubtedly been staffed by people who would prefer to be doing something else." This means that the problem isn't that the job is meaningless, it is that there are people that do not enjoy the job that they are doing and would rather do something else, so they feel as if it is meaningless. I agree with this because if you manage to find a job that you like and enjoy doing, there is no way that you will think that it is meaningless, whether that be being a singer or in a position of a company because in the end, all the jobs have a purpose. Although some jobs may seem to be "more necessary" or "more important" to the world today, there is always a point to the jobs that we do.

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  2. AT period 7
    This was another very interesting article that helped me fully understand the previous article. I agree with the information because there have been many times that I've noticed people that are completely unhappy with their jobs and going to work everyday brings them suffering. This emphasizes the importance of picking a job that makes you happy in life.

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  3. SK period 7: The author states that in the 21st century, the world economy has grown increasingly complex. It seems that man is working harder despite the fact that technology has increasingly taken over. Technology should be allowing man to work more productively and spend more time with family, but that’s not the case. Robots are replacing man in the workplace, particularly in areas of manual labor. We have grown to accept that fact and to even embrace it, but it just might be a mistake. In today’s society administrative and clerical workers are increasingly being replaced by computerized technology. If you think of it, replacing humans with a robot is simply a no brainer. Using robots to replace people who have standard desk jobs is an easy answer. Robots don’t tire out or even complain. They don’t play computer games on company time or take long breaks. They’d never even ask for a raise! They would probably even perform better. Meaningful jobs are quickly fading away. What’s next? A doctor’s visit by a robot?

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  4. The idea that the job market is transitioning from human run administration to machine based management is far easier to swallow then the notion that people are in a rut due to 'the man.' One unsettling idea the author proposed: "Jobs that require a particularly high level of empathy may continue to employ people (for a while)" when machine inherit the menial work. Yeah, no. A computer cannot compute emotions the way a person can. Moreover, even if the robot or such could be program with an artificial emotion, debate over their potential humanity would ensue. If they were then deemed human, their creator could not force them into employment they don't want. Thus rendering the whole idea kind of pointless.

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  5. I think that regardless of the technology, jobs should be affected very little by it. Technology should be used as a tool to aid in jobs. Not replace people altogether. It's a scary thought to know that one day things like doctors or even hairdressers could be entirely replaced by a computer. The article states, "The development of large-scale technological unemployment or underemployment, however, would force rich societies to revisit a system that primarily allocates purchasing power via earned wages." This means that the middle class would be entirely unemployed and the upper class would have to work much harder to maintain their lifestyle. I think that the rich should have to work just as hard as anyone, but this would happen because the middle class is now entirely unemployed.
    -KR Pd 7

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  6. SB - per. 7 - My first reaction to this article, once the author started talking about robots over taking humans in the labor industry was that that sounded crazy and that we should do everything we can to stop that from happening. The thought of robots running the human race is a scary one but I also assume that the idea of smart phones raised the same feeling for past generations. I think that as long as robots are able to make us feel like we are doing something productive, we will accept them with open arms.

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  7. Lizzie Petry, Period 3May 8, 2015 at 9:51 AM

    I tend to agree with the author in the sense that our economy is growing more complex but at the same time the jobs are not becoming meaningless. The author suggests that the jobs being done are just done by people that would rather be doing something else. I also agree that we can't be certain that robots are coming for all of our jobs. The idea is too far fetched. However, the idea that robots would take over the jobs that people complain about makes a bit more sense to me. Overall, I don't think robots will replace us, just the jobs we don't want to do.

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  8. Tristen pd 3
    Technology is very helpful in most jobs, it can be used in everything from taking orders to building the space ship. The idea of machines taking over is both concerning and exciting to me. it's concerning because if the world was completely automated there would be no more human interaction. But if machines were to take over some of these jobs that no one wants to do it would give the unhappy people currently doing these jobs a new opportunity to do something new.

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  9. CC period 7
    This response article is stating that BS jobs aren't really BS, they're just not enjoyed by most employed people. Although I do agree with the original article stating that some jobs seem meaningless, if they truly are meaningless then why would companies go through the effort to provide those jobs? The problem nowadays is technology taking over these BS jobs, due to the many advancements in the past couple of decades. Even if technology takes over some jobs, there is the fact that these technologies need to be created, so companies will provide even more jobs to create these technologies.

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  10. JJ period 7: The author maintains that advancements in technology will eventually take people out of the "BS" jobs and will replace many mundane administrative positions as new technology was able to replace assembly line workers. Although robots and automated machines can streamline certain processes, many things can only be done by humans. Some jobs require empathy or traits only humans possess that can't be imitated by machines.

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  11. CL period 7: I found this article to be a bit unsettling because lately in economics, we have been discussing the idea of unemployment and how we can increase jobs in the labor market. Yes, it is exciting that our technology is becoming more advanced and many machines are becoming capable of doing many tasks, the more machines that are created, the more jobs are being taken away from humans. This might make us a more advanced society, but our economy will plummet quickly and unemployment will skyrocket when everyone's jobs are machine-run.

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  12. Athur Syed
    I believe technology is a very controversial topic when it comes to the work field. Many may say it is a great advancement due to the simplicity it may make certain tasks. However, others believe it is intruding in the work field in q negative way toward people in the fact that it is taking away jobs from many people and eliminating the physical work for others. I believe to a certain extent, technology in the work field is acceptable, however it is best to be able to allow jobs to be given to people. Help the community, not the technology.

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  13. This article is very interesting because it as technology improves most people think that it takes away jobs. But then to keep the all of the robots and automated machinery working there has to be human intervention with either software design, mechanical problem solving or building the robots it actually has helped to add jobs into the economy. But he does have a point when h says that people would much rather be doing something else and are only there for a paycheck. Relating this to the video we watched today, always go and find what you are passionate about. Even if it doesn't pay as well you will still enjoy doing it and that's all that really matters.-Brian Haug

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  14. Radhika Gafur Period 7
    This article has a valid point that goes against what the others would call a "BS job". I agree that instead of it seeming like meaningless jobs, its just people being unhappy in what they are doing which looks like a meaningless job. I think that life is too short to be doing something that bores you or makes you unhappy. With techinokgy making us more advanced it also has its disadvantages such as more machines, making less jobs for people to actually do.

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  15. Radhika Gafur Period 7
    This article goes against of the "BS jobs" created which is really interesting. I agree that it seems that there are extra jobs however its just people who don't enjoy their job that make it so hard to actually do their job with passion. Technology has its quirks however it does have its disadvantages as well such as taking away jobs from people as more machines come about. Yet there are some things that machines cant do and arent programmed to do yet.

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  16. Truthfully, I find myself thinking about this article often. Most minimum wage jobs are often jobs that are considered "A waste of time". Many of the jobs are slowly diminishing with technology improving and taking over. Our wants as a society has bent to meet these changes and no one really calls it to question. With the jobs that are still being held, people have stated that they aren't being payed enough to endure their suffering of such tedious activities. But the article states that " Real wages for today's clerical workers are far higher than they were for manufacturing workers a century ago, and the work, for all its tedium, probably isn't nearly as unpleasant." However the article really drives home the fact that yes we all will work seemingly unpleasant jobs for long hours at a decent pay; but to at what cost? We're just going to end up not enjoying life due to the 0 free time we have. But we won't say anything or truly rebel because we need the jobs. What a terrible cycle.
    Fatemeh S. per. 7

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